Date: Tue, 30 Nov 93 20:35:21 PST From: Jeff Suttor Reply-To: Jeff Suttor To: timbl@info.cern.ch Cc: Betsy Coles , Jeff Suttor , woolley@seattleu.edu, e41494@fep1.rl.gov, piet@cv.hp.com, rizk@nuri.unica.fr, Pieter Lechner , kevinh@pulua.hcc.Hawaii.Edu Subject: Request for a valid HTML.DTD at CERN Status: R To: Tim Berners-Lee Cc: cern.www.talk, comp.{infosystems.www, text.sgml} Re: Request for a valid HTML.DTD at CERN Tim, At the recent ACM HyperText '93 in Seattle, WWW was a big topic. During a 'Birds of Feather' WWW session, a sub-group broke out to discuss HTML.DTD and SGML. Based on our discussion, we would like to request that the following replace the 'invalid' HTML.DTD at CERN. The HTML.DTD listed below does not change nor address any design or structural issues with HTML, it only fixes what were probably editing errors or simple oversights. It will not change the relationship between any existing HTML documents and HTML.DTD, it only makes HTML.DTD valid SGML. Some of the issues we discussed included: - WWW/HTML is going to be huge, will define many Internet'ers first experience with hypertext, a valid HTML.DTD could be an opportunity to introduce them to the value of structured information from the start - in several months, years there will be *large* amounts of HTML data, there are undesirable consequences to creating data in the large that is not conforming to a valid DTD, a valid DTD would help encourage people to not create future data legacies that will be difficult to algorithmically convert to other formats, support data reuse, etc. - a valid HTML.DTD will allow the use of SGML tools, easier conversion from existing SGML data to HTML - the SGML aware community is already modifying HTML.DTD locally so they can use their SGML tools defeating the purpose of a single shared HTML.DTD If we can answer any questions or provide any more information, please let us know! Thanks! Kurt Conrad, Pieter Lechner, Antoine Rizk, Jeff Suttor, Pieter van Zee, Jack Woolley Jeff Suttor Pgmr/Analyst Library Information Systems University Research Library (310)825-1206 Fax:(310)206-4109 405 Hilgard Avenue Los Angeles, CA 90024-1575 JSuttor@Library.UCLA.Edu !!! !!! note, the below only fixes 'editing' errors to the existing HTML.DTD !!! it does *not* address structural, stylistic or other issues !!! !!! summary of changes !!! !!! 2 %URL; entity references typos fixed, was space before ';' !!! !!! 4 typos in entity declarations for HText & SText, was using invalid comment !!! markup !!! !!! 5 typos in element declaration for Head, was using invalid spacing for !!! occurance indicators !!! !!! ambiguous content model for DL, removed P as P is already in %SText; !!! ]>